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Those are great points, and I'm sure ones that Roger's attorneys will argue. The thing that also interests me are the gauze pads, allegedly with Roger's blood on it. It's all pretty sketchy at this point. I guess Roger's attorney's will argue that those pads were used when McNamee injected Roger with B-12 and Lidocaine. We're never going to get a straight answer from any of this. The only way to prove it is if Roger left any kind of paper trail.

Regardless, Roger's reputation is forever damaged. The majority of people are going to believe he was a steroid user. Will that keep him out of the HOF? Hard to say, because there is no direct link with him like there is with Barry Bonds. Until someone produces a check, a diary, a pay/owe slip, something Roger's legacy is going to be left in the hands of believability. You either believe him or you don't.

OK, this is getting beyond the ridiculous. Are you kidding me? Why in the hell would Debra Clemens need or want to use steroids? Steroids aren't going to get you in that type of shape for a photo. Are you kidding me? Whose next? The kids? His sister?

Source: Brian McNamee testified Roger Clemens' wife took HGH

BY CHRISTIAN RED in Washington and MICHAEL O'KEEFFE, NATHANIEL VINTON and TERI THOMPSON in New York
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITERS

Saturday, February 9th 2008, 1:53 AM

Brian McNamee told congressional investigators Thursday in a sworn deposition that Roger Clemens' wife used human growth hormone, according to a source familiar with McNamee's testimony.

The source said McNamee testified that he injected Debbie Clemens with growth hormone and believed she took the drug to get in shape before she appeared with the pitcher in Sports Illustrated's swimsuit issue in 2003. She appeared with her husband in a photograph taken in Central Park in the magazine's Feb. 18, 2003, issue wearing a bikini and holding a bat over her shoulders while Roger Clemens reclined on the ground in his Yankee uniform.



"McNamee discussed his wife's use before the committee," according to the source. "She was trying to get in shape for the SI cover. He told them the story that Debbie took growth."

McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, testified that he injected her at the pitcher's direction, according to the source.

Full Story: NY Daily News

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Geeze, Instead of growth hormones she could have had breast and hip implants and looked better.

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Andy, when is the last time you had an eye test???

Andy, I can tell you that one injection is not going to turn her body into that. You see these gals doing Bowflex and other products all the time on TV and they look exactly the same. Are we going to assume that they all take steroids. Maybe Debbie had 'roid rage when she made that commercial with Roger when he called her and he couldn't hear her saying "no, no." Remember she threw the flower pot or something like it?

Seriously, it could have happened, but I find it all highly dubious.

Roger is really screwed now. How does he explain AP's backing up of McNamee. Boy talk about the ending of a friendship..... really said it's all come to this.

It's time to end this charade.

DAMNING WORDS
REPORT: PETTITTE BACKED TRAINER VS. ROG


By BRIAN COSTELLO

February 12, 2008 -- Andy Pettitte was excused yesterday from testifying against his friend Roger Clemens at a congressional hearing - but it appears Pettitte already has done plenty of damage to Clemens' contention that he never used steroids or human growth hormone.

Rep. Tom Davis, the ranking Republican on the congressional committee investigating steroid use in baseball, told Newsday that Pettitte, in his deposition last week, backed up the account of Brian McNamee, the former trainer of Clemens and Pettitte.

McNamee has said Clemens used steroids and human growth hormone.

Davis told the newspaper that Pettitte's testimony matches McNamee's in most details, but that Clemens, in his deposition last week, said both of them are mistaken.

Pettitte asked to be excused from tomorrow's congressional hearing so that he would not have to testify against Clemens, and the committee's leaders granted him his request. They also excused Kirk Radomski and Chuck Knoblauch from the hearing, and Radomski from giving a deposition today.

Full Story: NY POST

Further along the road, is Clemens' attorney this dumb or just naive?

Rusty Hardin when asked why he and his team didn't contact George Mitchell after hearing that his client was going to be in the report:

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"The whole thing was so adversarial at that time, it never occurred to us that Mitchell would have talked to me. Never occurred to me at the time to talk to George Mitchell and try to figure out what was in the report."

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Never occurred to you? Where the hell did this guy get his law degree? Crackerjack? Why wouldn't you want to know what was going to be in the report? Roger Clemens got some very bad legal advise IMHO. Now he could be facing a lot of legal problems he didn't want or need. His 24-year pitching career is going to be rendered insignificant in light of all this stuff that is coming out.

All I can say is if he ends up facing any criminal charges like Barry Bonds he needs get a better team of lawyers to defend him.